Neighbor vs. Neighbor

Posted September 14, 2016 by The Argonaut in News

A fight over vacation rentals is tearing Playa del Rey apart

By Gary Walker

Tiny community, tense conflicts: The Jungle, as seen from the Playa del Rey bluffs Photo by Inae Bloom

Tiny community, tense conflicts: The Jungle,
as seen from the Playa del Rey bluffs
Photo by Inae Bloom

In lower Playa del Rey, the signs are everywhere.

On one home, “We Support Short Term Rentals.”

On another, often right next door: “Short Term Rentals are Illegal in Los Angeles.”

It’s a pattern that repeats all along the beachfront homes of Trolleyway and other residential streets below the bluffs south of Culver Boulevard, a historically tight-knit community that locals have called The Jungle since the 1950s.

The signs have become physical markers of broken relationships — battle lines drawn between those who vigorously oppose short-term vacation rentals and those who operate or approve of them.

In Venice and other high-profile vacation rental hotspots, opponents worry about losing permanent rental housing to gentrification-fueling tourist dollars, while proponents counter that vacation rental revenue can help residents afford to stay in their homes.

But in The Jungle, disagreements about vacation rentals have become personal issues causing irreparable damage to longtime friendships and dividing a neighborhood that once prided itself on togetherness.

Opponents of home-sharing have taken to social media to publicly accuse former friends of treachery and running illegal enterprises. Meanwhile, vacation rental supporters complain they’ve been unfairly targeted in sting operations by former friends who have called out city inspectors to investigate them.

Animosity has become so widespread that it threatens to dampen this Saturday’s turnout for the annual Jungle Cleanup, a decades-long tradition of collaborative neighborhood tidying followed by an afternoon block party along Trolleyway.

Bob Hughes, a Trolleyway homeowner who’s been involved with the Jungle Cleanup for 20 years, says neighborhood tensions have gotten so high that he’s taking the year off from the event.

“I hope we get a good turnout, but in many ways it won’t be the same,” he said.

Maria Reyes, vice president of the homeowners association that organizes the Jungle Cleanup, is also sitting this one out. Reyes is still upset after a neighbor and former friend who suspected her of renting rooms to tourists went behind her back to get city inspectors to show up on her doorstep.

Things have gotten so bad that even Jeanne Moody — a 50-year resident of The Jungle and one of the founders of the Jungle Cleanup — is skipping it too. The neighborhood divide, she says, has left her angry and disheartened.

“We’ve been such a close-knit community for so long. I’m not sure if [the cleanup] will be the same this year,” Moody said.

Eviction Friction

Lucy Han, a Trolleyway homeowner of 10 years, and six-year homeowner Jan Haagen are the leaders of a 10-month campaign to cast a spotlight on local property owners they accuse of breaking the law by leasing units out to tourists for days at a time.

Their group, Community Above Profit, claims lower Playa landlords have illegally evicted longtime tenants in an effort to cash in on the lucrative vacation rental marketplace.

Current listings on brokerage websites Airbnb and Homeway offer vacation rentals in lower Playa del Rey that include $80 per night for a room in which homeowners are present, $400 per night for private use of a beachfront downstairs unit, and more than $700 per night for the run of an entire beachfront home.

Han said her involvement began when a neighbor’s landlord looking to cash in on the bonanza “evicted the people downstairs and upstairs in order to turn their building into a short-term rental” and promptly listed the units on Airbnb. Fearing possible retribution, Han declined to name the landlords she accuses of illegal evictions.

Community Above Profit claims these evictions were illegal because the landlords allegedly violated the Ellis Act, a 1985 state law that allows landlords to evict all tenants in a particular building for the purpose of taking it off the rental market.

Vacation rental detractors say landlords “emptying out” their buildings and converting them into short-term rentals are skirting the Ellis Act because those properties are still engaged in the rental market, even if the building becomes a single-family home.

Jack Jackals, a Trolleyway homeowner of 35 years, lives next door to  a short-term rental and has experienced problems that residents in other communities with vacation rentals have complained about: temporary renters parking in his driveway, people coming and going at all hours, and hordes of strangers suddenly living next door.

In a final indignity, on one recent evening Jackals said a group of renters asked him to turn down his music.

“They said I was ruining their vacation!” he recalled incredulously.

Jackals complained that his neighbor’s vacation rentals have turned the house next door into a business.

“Let’s call it what it is: a hotel,” Jackals said.

Haagen, who lives between two duplexes offering vacation rentals, recalls a neighborhood where she knew practically all of her neighbors.

“Now it’s turned into living with strangers all the time after the landlord on one side of my house evicted her long-term tenants,” said Haagen. “One of the landlords on one side has evicted her long-term tenants for people who come for a few days or a week. She’s blatantly breaking the law and there’s nothing I can do about it.”

Community Above Profit has tried to do something about it.

They’ve kept tabs on how many vacation rentals are advertised on Airbnb — counting 116 in Playa del Rey on Independence Day weekend, and 13 active listings on Trolleyway alone last month.

They have written, called and cajoled city inspectors to cite those who they say are operating vacation rentals.

They’ve even lobbied the Los Angeles City Attorney’s office to prosecute property owners in the vacation rental business.

“Those who are against short-term rentals see them as a threat to their longevity in the neighborhood,” Haagen said.

But others tell a different story.

‘Jungle Rules’

A Playa del Rey homeowner for 16 years who is supportive of vacation rentals, Reyes said she and others have been unfairly and falsely smeared by Han and her Community Above Profit allies in a whispering campaign fueled by social media.

Reyes said Han has accused her of brokering illegal rentals, and that those accusations prompted a visit from city inspectors — even though Reyes says she hasn’t had any kind of tenant for years.

“We were set up on sting operations and turned in [to city officials]. You don’t do that to your neighbors and people from your own community without talking to them first,” said Reyes.

Reyes worked with Han last year to convince Los Angeles County officials to build a sand berm to protect The Jungle from El Nino storm surges, but that goodwill is gone now. “Heartbreaking” is one of the words Reyes use to describe the animosity that has pervaded the neighborhood.

Last year Reyes’ mother, a senior citizen with physical challenges that prevent her from working, moved into a unit on her property. Reyes said her mother should be able to home-share a bedroom in the unit she occupies.

“Her future ability to rent her space as needed in her home could serve as a supplemental source of income,” she said.

Those who contacted city inspectors without first trying to sort things out person-to-person violated what Carol Kapp calls “Jungle Rules” — an informal protocol that has long dictated how neighbors interact in lower Playa and especially in The Jungle.

“If someone was being too loud, you knocked on their door and asked them to be quiet. If you parked in front of someone, you left a note on their car with your phone number so they could contact you,” said Kapp, 71, who has lived in The Jungle since 1978.

Moody calls the tactics used by Community Above Profit “very underhanded” and has seen how the vacation rental debate has affected friendships with neighbors.

“It’s hard because you see people that you used to say hi to, but now you’re not sure what to say to them,” Moody lamented.

Knapp, a former apartment manager, has also seen a wall grow between neighbors because of the polarization of vacation rentals.

“It’s horrendous that a small group of people who don’t like them are dividing our community,” Knapp said.

“I’m sure everything, as far as the turmoil, could have been avoided if they had followed ‘Jungle Rules,’” Reyes asserted. “It’s ridiculous and offensive.”

Han disagrees. She asserts that people who feel they deserved a warning before being reported to authorities need to understand what they are doing is illegal.

“This is not just an inconsequential noise violation. People are getting evicted and priced out of the area. It is naive to think hosts would listen to warnings,” Han said.

Tom Turley became ensnared in the vortex of vacation rental animosity three years ago, when he decided to move into a duplex he owns on Trolleyway and evicted his tenants so he could move in.

Turley said that even after the Los Angeles Housing Authority investigated and OK’d the eviction, his former tenants refused to leave for several months and vandalized the property when they did. Then they took to social media and accused him of an illegal eviction — a charge he vehemently denies.

“We live on the property. We are not ‘absentee hosts,’” Turley said.

Han said her goal is to protect the neighborhood, not sell out her neighbors, and that she too has been attacked on social media.

“This is not personal. This is about a citywide issue. It’s not just about Trolleyway or Playa del Rey,” Han said. “People are upset and I get it, but they’ve made it personal and it’s not.”

Han said “the tension was inevitable,” but Reyes disagrees.

“I think when you run sting operations and set up your neighbors, it turns an issue that you could talk about with your neighbors into a war zone,” Reyes said. “That’s like saying it’s inevitable to have a war because there are Democrats and Republicans living in the same place.”

Room for a Compromise?

Los Angeles City Hall is currently drafting new vacation rental regulations that would legalize them under some circumstances while banning wholesale conversion of rental properties into de-facto hotels, protecting rent-stabilized housing.

L.A. City Councilman Mike Bonin, who cosponsored the proposed city ordinance, has heard from both sides of the issue in Playa del Rey. He says the animosity between neighbors underscores the importance of creating a legal framework for home-sharing.

“This is why we need clear, defined and enforceable rules,” he said. “There are people in Playa del Rey who want everything to be legal, and there are those who want everything to be illegal. What I’m for is a compromise: sensible, enforceable regulations where no affordable housing is taken off the market.”

Reyes, who often uses Airbnb when she travels domestically and abroad, supports Bonin’s proposals.

“I don’t see why anyone would be against opening up their community and sharing it with people who don’t live here. I haven’t met anyone who has had problems with short-term renters, but I can see concerns [about some renters] where that may be plausible,” Reyes said.

In a letter to Bonin earlier this year, 20 homeowners in The Jungle expressed their support for short-term rentals and for the ordinance.

Community Above Profit sent Bonin’s office more than 350 signatures against vacation rentals, although not all signatories are from Playa del Rey.

Jackals blames city officials for the current predicament in lower Playa del Rey, and he doesn’t have much confidence that approval of an ordinance will assuage any hurt feelings.

“They’ve created the adversarial component of this tension by not enforcing the law. They’re pitting neighbor against neighbor, people against people. If past performance is an indication, they’re not going to be able to control the future,” he asserted.

Asked why she did not wait until new regulations are in place, Han said waiting could directly affect some people’s lives.

“People are being evicted illegally. That’s the impetus. And who knows when the ordinance will be finalized? Why wait for more people to be evicted?” Han said.

The cleanup will continue, despite the absence of Moody, Reyes, Knapp and Hughes.

Han said she and a group of friends are taking it over because the founders and residents like Hughes have retired from the event.

Hughes disputes that assessment.

“I’m taking a year off and I’ll see what happens next year,” said Hughes, who attended Han’s wedding.

Han says those in favor of short-term rentals should not mix local politics with an annual event that is as ingrained in the community as its ocean breezes and late-night parties.

“If the people who aren’t going to participate are going to hold things against the community, that’s too bad. This has nothing to do with short-term rentals: this is a cleanup,” she said.

Han is undaunted and unapologetic for her tenacity in confronting vacation rental operators and has no regrets over what has happened.

“I don’t really care because most of these people are not my friends,” she said. “I really don’t know these people, and they’ve done bad things to my friends.”

Reyes said she sees no way that the bonds with certain people can be repaired and irreparable damage has been done.

“Personally, that’s how it is for me. I participated so heavily in leading community efforts for 16 years. At the end of the day, there’s going to be an ordinance, but that’s not going to heal the hurt that they’ve caused,” she said.

With all the lingering animosity, Hughes worries that The Jungle that embraced him and others for so long has been deeply transformed. He expects that’ll extend to Saturday’s cleanup.

“I think there will be a different tone, a different feel to it,” he said. “There’s a feeling that we’re not united anymore and that’s really sad.”

The Jungle Cleanup runs from 8 a.m. to noon on Saturday, Sept. 17, beginning along Trolleyway. The community party is from noon to 5 p.m., also on Trolleyway. Email for more information.



    David Kay

    Tragedy of the commons.


    This isn’t just a jungle problem . I live up on the PDR Bluffs in an R 1 zone , but next door to an AirBnB motel . The biggest problem for me is when the entire house is rented out without the owner present ( parties until 5am , porno shoots were the “actors” later broke into another neighbors yard to go skinny dipping in her pool in front of her grandchildren) . The one bedroom rental ( he has broken the house down into 3 rentals each with their own outside entrances , one added on to his cliffside home without permits) has an entrance in between the houses and airport related guests arrive and leave at all hours of the night clunking their luggage down the stairs. This neighbor is retired in his 40’s and strickly running a business out of greed . He wouldn’t know the name of the neighbor across the street if you asked him .


      Wow. I have to assume such illegal activities have caused for police reports to be filed. Could you get me report numbers? Who is this owner? I am happy to talk to them. Reasonable regulation and responsible management. If a fraction of what you profess to be is true, we at the Los Angeles Short Term Rental Alliance do not want them being a bad apple taking down our worthy and contributing part of the economy.

      I look forward to hearing back from you.


        Hi Robert. The fact is, we’re busy people who don’t have time to report every little petty crime to the cops. Many of the seventeen (you read that right) “hosts” operating an illegal hotel room in my building like to prop open the security door to allow their tenants easy access. Unfortunately, that allows criminals to come in as well. We just experienced a rash of robberies over the weekend (the security footage shows them walking right in). My bike was destroyed in the attempt to steal it. This isn’t something we should “learn to live with”. What you’re doing is illegal for a reason. If I had a crack den next door to me I wouldn’t want “regulations”, I would want it taken down.


      It is my understanding, and with documentation, that the eviction was legal in Turley’s case. Sometimes we are dealt blows in life we really don’t like; we lose sweet situations we held. It doesn’t mean it is illegal.

      I am not an attorney, but work so much with legal issues day to day now. I would be careful of making ongoing false accusations. They can come back to bite you.


    It all started with rent control. If you could charge market rent a landlord could afford to not have to have short term renters. But land lords lose money on renters so it makes short term renters a solution to help offset costs that continue to rise while rent does not. You can’t afford to maintain your buildings when your rental income is low. We are not focusing on the right things. Not everyone can afford to live in every area. I am sorry about that. I have not always been able to live where I have wanted to. Doesn’t mean we should not charge market rent and let buildings run down. I would support no short term rentals if you allowed people to charge market rent to long term renters.


      Did the owner know they were purchasing a Rent-Controlled property. Seems to me that was the known agreement when purchasing the property. Can’t feel sorry for them


    To what end is City Hall continuing to drag out the process of putting an ordinance into place regarding STRs?
    LA County continues to benefit from the taxation of STRs by taking their cut. If an ordinance does not pass the city no longer gets their cut.
    An enforceable ordinance will resolve the legal aspect for The Jungle’s neighbors on both sides of the issue.
    Sadly, no ordinance on earth will heal the damage to long term friendships and the sense of community that has been broken by the very vocal and reportedly unapologetic tenacity of the Han/Haagen/CAP camp.
    Due to CAPs erroneous accusations of evictions and/or fear of same – random false allegations – contacting the city to perform random inspections – personally interrogating visiting friends and family members of homeowners – all of this and more will be tough for CAP to overcome the division they have created in the community.
    Jack Jackals is a 35 year renter and NOT a homeowner as quoted in your article. Although protected by the Ellis Act – perhaps he is concerned that should STR Ordinances be put in place- his currently anti-STR landlord will find a loophole and evict him for profit over community?
    By the way – where is the Fourth Amendment protection for property owners in all of this?
    As quoted in your article: Lucy Han (a ten year resident) and Jan Haagen (a six year resident) and their CAP “sting operation” – it would appear these women have based their attacks on hearsay and NOT on facts – hence perhaps Han’s refusal to name those she accuses.
    Somehow I feel sad for Han that she has hit a bee hive. She states that she doesn’t know her neighbors nor does she consider them to be her friends. That is counter to my 27+ years of enjoying this piece of paradise.
    Han states in your article that Bob Hughes and other long term residents have “retired” from this year’s Jungle Cleanup – an event 40 years in the running. Hughes himself states that he is just “taking a year off”.
    In reviewing the longevity of the residents who are quoted in this article – 50 years, 40 years, 20 years, 16 years. These are long term residents and wonderful community leaders who are now taking a break from their involvement due to the division of their neighborhood. The human fracture in The Jungle is the saddest part of this whole mess.
    To review the facts please visit


      Actually, the Han/Haagen/CAP camp have been trying to protect the neighborhood and commutnity. I wonder how your tune would change if you were renting and had to worry about the threat of eviction because your landlord wants to turn the place into an illegal STR/hotel. We know people who that has happened to and its not pretty!!!

      You’re lack of empathy is shameful.

      And how is the 4th Ammendment even applicable here?!?!!?

        Kat M.

        The Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution protects personal privacy, and every citizens right to be free from unreasonable government intrusion into their persons, homes, businesses, and property …..Fifth grade Civics class….


    Someone who has lived there for 16 years, concerned with the community enough to organize regular cleanups does not deserve a “sting” operation. If she was operating something and they are making noise and bothering people, you would think they know her good enough to talk to her. If this is just about principal, not personal, nor is it about bothersome activities then it is about snitching on a neighbor who is trying to make a few bucks. And I am assuming from this article she is not even operating an airbnb but supports the possibility.


    “Tom Turley became ensnared in the vortex of vacation rental animosity three years ago, when he decided to move into a duplex he owns on Trolleyway and evicted his tenants so he could move in.

    Turley said that even after the Los Angeles Housing Authority investigated and OK’d the eviction, his former tenants refused to leave for several months and vandalized the property when they did. Then they took to social media and accused him of an illegal eviction — a charge he vehemently denies.”

    This article is full of falsehoods but just to correct this portion… “evicted his tenants so he could move in.” There was an empty unit downstairs when he was wanting the upstairs tenants to leave. In fact, he had already moved into the separate unit downstairs before the occupants upstairs had left.

    The property was not vandalized. The unit had been occupied for 22 years without any major improvements or overhauls. Prove the vandalization.

    You tell me what an illegal eviction is when you bring a lawyer over to your house without an appointment and proceed to “discuss” signing a contract that completely subverts using the legal eviction process that exists with the city.

    The simple truth is that Air BnB maybe helping grandma stay in her house but it is also being used to subvert laws that are in place for a reason. STRs completely subvert laws enacted for rent control not to mention the Ellis Act. If you take your property off the commercial market, it should be off the commercial market.

    Let it be known that during the eviction process with Turley, the Ellis Act was discussed and it was discussed as a weapon. A tool to evict. If a person wants to live in their home they should, but once an individual purchases a property with some kind of commercial intent then they have to live by a completely new set of rules. Restaurants, hotels, and every other kind of commerce must abide and so should STR’s.


      So was this an illegal eviction? The article references illegal evictions (and CAP does as well), was this one of the properties where tenants were evicted illegally?


      No Reply? We have been hearing about illegal evictions from a handful of people, including some quoted in this article. But will somebody please say where these illegal evictions for STRs have happened? I’m sure there are others who would also like to know the truth: were there illegal evictions in this neighborhood, and was this eviction that Curtis discussed illegal, and was the eviction done so the owner could do STRs in that unit? That’s the whole point of this article: what were the right and wrong things done in this neighborhood to create this fight. Whether you are pro or anti-STR, it would be helpful for us to understand so we can be informed. If we can’t get this information, it seems like it may just be scare tactics to create an alarm in our community. It’s important because it appears that the only real harm of STRs may be if tenants were illegally evicted. We all know the trash, noise, parking, etc., is much more due to permanent residents, or day visitors, than it is from families staying at the beach on vacation.


    Oooh, “Jungle Rules” and “running sting operations”? Puhhhlease! Sounds like a bad ’70s prison movie.

    Carol kapp

    West Beach Playa del Rey Property Owners Assoc have initiated and sponsored The Jungle Cleanup for over 37 years. The membership has declared a 1 year Hiatus from sponsoring and organizing the Clean UP. Sometimes it is a good thing to take a breath and step back.
    Here’s to neighborhood peace and our next clean up
    Carol Kapp resident/owner 38 years


      I didn’t even notice some people were boycotting the cleanup, but it was by far the best cleanup I’ve seen. Much better organization and prizes this year.

        Carol kapp

        Just wondering how many Clean ups have you participated in? Glad that you need prizes to be a good neighbor by participating in an annual event that brings us together and celebrate our unique and clean Neighborhood–The Jungle

          Steven M

          I have been at the last 12 J Cleanups. This was by far the best, most organized, and professional ones ever. Did everyone see the post cards like the one I got in my mailbox supper impressive. Not sure who headed it up but I would say out with the old and in with the new. I can only imagine how much better it will be next year. Who would want to go backwards? Not me.
          Thank you Friends of the Jungle keep up the good work


          4th for me as a resident, unless you count the times in the ’90s when my family would ride our bikes through the jungle and just check it out. This was better than years past, and it wasn’t all about the great prizes. Seems there were more people actually working this year; the alleys look amazing and I noticed most people were done before noon, likely due to the extra hands. I imagine the flyer helped. Also, the food was better. Better beer and Senor G’s juice made for phenomenal mixers. Lastly, I liked that you didn’t have to worry about missing your name being called at the raffle. I bet they even made more money this year as well.


    Let me also correct the statement that Bob Hughes is retiring
    We love our community and will continue to support community events

    you losers

    you people and your entitled NIMBYism…its called a free market economy. The same people who oppose AirBNB are the same uptight racist white people who decades ago would have opposed people of color moving into their neighborhoods. Think about it….

    Jane T

    THIS IS CURRENTLY STRICTLY ILLEGAL. If it cannot be controlled now, how will LA be able to control it later? It is not free market when you break the law. What if someone opened an auto repair shop, or a brothel next door to you, is that free market? There laws are for a reason. You are so ignorant to suggest it is a racist issue or NIMBY. It is a community issue. I love my neighborhood and the people who live here, not the Airbnb Hosts who don’t even live here.

    It is sad that this has happened in Playa Del Rey. Short term rental is illegal PERIOD. I don’t have a battle of neighbor vs neighbor, it is a misnomer for me where I live. The Airbnb host who owns the rental across the street from me does not even live there. It is 30 of my neighbors and I vs an infectious disease doctor of Glendale Adventist Medical Center and his wife who apparently are rich, own 4 dedicated homes that they Airbnb. They filed a frivolous lawsuit against me to intimidate us from seeking enforcement. The case against me was dismissed because they are liars. What kind of person does that?! They use their money, their lies, the legal system and their money to attack me. So far the City Attorney has not yet filed charges against them, but soon, I hope.

    Most of the hosts of Airbnb are painting a picture of misrepresentation. They are turning my neighborhood that I LOVED into their personal money-making machine. Now, every time I go out my front door, I cringe that I might see the vacationers, the Airbnb hosts themselves, their cleaning crew, people parking up my street, strangers that don’t even look me in the eye, people barfing on their front porch, Uber cars, taxis, rental cars, limousines, vacationers wanting to unload their luggage in my driveway. I don’t know what is next.

    I used to love the view outside my front porch, and my windows, the view if the lake. But now I cringe. When the coast is clear, I am ok.

    Ted T

    Jane, where do you live? It doesn’t sound like it’s Playa del Rey. You should contact LASTRA who will contact any bad owners and will have the means to enforce changes with the problems they are causing. Also, have you called the police when there have been disturbances or illicit behavior? All of this helps if you need support in enforcing any action against them. Of the half dozen or so vacation rentals in Playa del Rey, most are owned by long term owner/residents, every one had an on-site owner and there weren’t any party/trash issues (at least nothing worse than long term residents). The 20 Jungle residents who signed the 4-page letter to Bonin (within 1 day of the STR ordinance) represented over 500 years of residency in the Jungle. These are not newcomers trying to change the neighborhood, these were mostly old timers who recognized the Jungle as a vacation place since the 1950’s.

    To Jeremiah, Steven M and the others who enjoyed the Jungle Cleanup, it’s nice that it was a great event. That event lasted one day, the damage that Lucy Han, Jan Haagen and CAP have caused to the Jungle will last every day of the next year, and years to come. A great Jungle cleanup will not ever change that…. There are no victims in the Jungle of vacation rentals: there has not been one police report filed for a disturbance, and there has not been one verified illegal eviction. There are “claims” of illegal evictions, but Han, Haagen and others continue to make the claims but have NEVER provided any details. Most likely tenants were legally evicted, they didn’t like it, they tried to blame the new homeowners…fear-mongering at it’s best to try to convince others that they have a legitimate cause. If anyone can provide an STR-related police report or an eviction for STRs, PLEASE let us know….

    Think about these facts: 20 long time residents with over 500 combined years of residency signed a letter supporting vacation rentals in their neighborhood and pushing back against the false claims of the anti-STR group. In the article above, Lucy Han, a resident of 10 years, said “I don’t really care because most of these people are not my friends, I really don’t know these people, and they’ve done bad things to my friends.” Maybe Han and Haagen should get to know the residents who all signed that letter ….maybe they should get to know their neighbors, most of whom were in the neighborhood long before them…


    So if I saved money and purchased my duplex for my life, I’m wrong? I want my guest house that I use to be filled with my family and friends and I don’t want roommates. So I have that extra space for me peeps….,but when it’s empty, I can not do what I want with the home I purchased, that I live in? Why????? If my mom can make a buck in her unit that I own because of her (giving me her entire life savings before she dies)…she gets to do what she wants in her own unit. And if our direct neighbors don’t care and use our space for their own family time…why mess up a great thing with “what’s if faulsehood” that NEVER happened? People can have different views on this subject and that’s acceptable. Turning in neighbors is NEVER acceptable in what we use to know as “the jungle”. Carol Kapp is a longtime activist who enshured “deligates” were involved in what we called “jungle clean up”. As a matter of fact a kid named Paul Moody invented the concept when a few years after cleaning up they spray painted shirts. It evolved. So u didn’t notice a boycott? But u did notice it’s existence? Because young grasshopper….it was more than 40 years ago when this started and it became a community event that if not for the people you didn’t miss….would not be a thing at all. (This is for my mentor Carol Kapp, who showed me what it means to be about community, by actions). Love u sister! (There, I said something). Did I mention uncle Bob and my BFF Jeane Moody?

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